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Comment at the Israel Debate

Exeposé Comment’s Debate Correspondent Fiona Potigny reviews Debating Society‘s debate concerning Israel’s desire for peace.

We did it, Exeter. As DebSoc President Scott Pepé so proudly announced, Exeter has triumphed at that which Durham, Oxford, and Cambridge have all failed: holding a successful debate on one of the most dividing issues of our time: Israel. With the motion “This House Believes that Israel pursues a policy of peace in the Middle East”, naturally spectator numbers were high, nearing that of the Thatcher debate – or, rather, the infamous Katie Hopkins debate – prompting a return to Newman A.

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“Though the motion was not specifically geared towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the issue would clearly be unavoidable this evening…”
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Votes of conscience reflected little trust in the motion with the bulk of voters split between “against” and “abstain”. First speaker for the proposition, Professor Alan Johnson, Editor of Fathom and Senior Research Fellow of BICOM certainly had a challenge on his hands.

Apparently attempting the Guinness World Record for facts per minute, Professor Johnson launched his defensive mission citing Israel’s “repeated efforts to divide the land” such as in 1937 and 1947, and its territorial concessions to Jordan amongst other relevant facts as examples of its pursuit of peace.

Though the motion was not specifically geared towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the issue would clearly be unavoidable this evening and thus Johnson was quick to lay out his support for the Two State Solution. This, he stated, would allow both sides to exercise their right to self-determination, which should in turn end the strife of “both [of] Europe’s victims in this tragic history”. Nonetheless, despite his pace, his argument was at least clear and well-supported, though perhaps curtailing his history lesson would have left more time to provide a stronger conclusion.

Assuring the audience that she “[did] not envy the proposition’s position”, Dr Gharda Karmi emanated confidence from the outset, continuing that the audience “should not have difficulty” in voting against what she branded the proposition’s “propaganda”. The doctor, academic and author then swiftly embarked upon her assault of Israel, reducing the country to a territory of “war, instability, divisiveness and occupation”.

Taking us on a more negative journey through Israeli history via the Suez and Six-Day wars, 1981 bombings of Iraq, and the invasions of Lebanon and Bombay, Dr Karmi made a convincing effort to deconstruct the pacifist image that Professor Johnson had presented. She became increasingly impassioned as she noted Israel’s possession of nuclear and chemical weaponry and daily discrimination against non-Jews, most particularly so when describing the untried child prisoners, which climaxed in her fist-on-table conclusion that the Two State Solution would be impossible. “If it were”, she argued, “why doesn’t it already exist?”

James Clappison MP, Parliamentary Chairman of Conservative Friends of Israel, was soon to instigate a blame game, accusing the opp of not only contesting Israel’s right to be a state (this was later clarified as untrue), but also of having presented a “complete re-writing of history”. The true history, he claimed, was that of an Israel entitled to its own defence from Palestinian hostility, who launched rockets from Gaza and built the West Bank Barrier as a result of attacks such as the Yom Kippur War. Clappison also added that, in its pursuit of peace, Israel only engaged Iraq in the hope of destroying their WMD’s, whilst the West did this regardless. Emphasising that we must “embrace” the Two State Solution, he ended that “a vote for the opposition is a vote against peace”.

Picking up on this final quip, Dr Nadia Nasser, Research Fellow of the Arab and Islamic Studies Institute defined this “peace” as one of “separation and subjugation”. Dr Nasser built a robust argument on the strong foundations laid by Dr Karmi by recounting her own personal experiences of communities torn apart by sieges and control.

As she spoke about the restrictions she now faces in travelling to Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and Bethlehem – sites she had enjoyed visiting pre-Oslo Accords – and the road blocks and diversions caused by the dividing wall hindering her from visiting her Aunt who was previously just 5 minutes away, Dr Nasser shattered the television screen with which we conveniently distance ourselves and allowed the gravity of the situation to become strikingly real. It is for this reason, that she is this week’s Best Speaker.

Questions saw a good deal of audience opinion shine through, which, though interesting, did have to be quelled by chair Ellie Binks, who politely reminded us that questions must be kept short – indeed some did prove a good challenge in figuring out what exactly was being asked. Some of the more understandable – though by no means less probing – questions addressed the issues of arms exportation, the utility of war, America’s role in Israeli-Palestinian debate, and whether a One State solution would ever be possible.

While the general consensus was that America’s attempt to be an “honest broker” in the proceedings would ultimately hamper and taint the process, naturally, mention of a one state solution brought with it a hefty hand of tension. Dr Karmi was adamant that both peoples are peaceable enough to live under a single democratic rule, which was supplemented by Dr Nasser’s assertion that with the number of illegal settlements scattered across Palestinian land, the map is now far too complicated for the land to be divided. Clappison disputed this, comparing the situation with that of Ireland, followed by Professor Johnson who humorously interjected that “a couple at each other’s throats do not get married”.

This was not enough to convince the audience, however, and the opposition won with a good share of the votes.

Fiona Potigny

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Middle East: Iranian Discussions

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In her newest piece, Features Online Columnist Thea Osborne talks about the Iranians’ talks…

The recent Iran talks in Geneva, despite ending inconclusively, are being generally hailed as a step in the right direction. The talks, between the US, UK, France, China, Russia, Germany and Iran, lasted three days and were focused around reaching a deal in which Iran would promise to curtail their nuclear programme in return for a reduction in international, particularly US, sanctions against the country.

Iran’s nuclear policy and capabilities are immensely unclear and therefore perceived as a potentially lethal threat to the region and particularly to the States’ allies Saudi Arabia and Israel. It is known that Iran has a nuclear programme and it considers it as a matter of national pride and technical achievement that it should be allowed to continue to do so as is permitted through the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The treaty allows nuclear power for domestic civil power but Iran’s programme is on a far larger scale than that and is thought to be close to levels needed to make a bomb. There is, therefore, a need for transparency about Iran’s ambitions for the programme, which it insists is not for a bomb, and outside investigations and regulations in their enrichment programmes. Naturally Iran will not agree to this without clear incentives, not necessarily simply concerning sanctions, but also its wider position in the region and its relationship with the US.

The talks concluded with a statement from the exhausted-looking Iranian foreign secretary, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and EU foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton. In their statement both suggested progress had been made and refused to clearly comment on the apparent “scuppering” of the talks by France: the surprise spanner in the works in the form of French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius’ refusal to accept a stopgap deal which aimed at defusing tensions and creating more time for discussion and negotiation. The hiccup appears to have caused much fury amongst diplomats and speculations as to French motives.

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Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu
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Unsurprisingly due to their long-term hatred and rivalry, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has spoken out clearly about his disapproval of Iran’s ‘deal of the century’. Having spent much to the last twenty years propagating the unfathomable dangers that emanate from Iran it understandably seems to come as quite a shock and upset to Netanyahu that his best friend and supporter, the US, is willing to discuss the lifting of some of its thirty year old sanctions on Iran.

Another key ally of the US, Saudi Arabia, is also concerned about the new Iranian-US diplomacy. As the dominant Sunni nation within the region Saudi Arabia has had a long-term rivalry with Shia-dominated Iran; it recently played out, with horrific results, that the two nations backed, funded and armed opposite sides within the Syrian civil war. Saudi Arabia, however, has been less vocal than Israel about its view, partly due to the way that the Saudi monarchy does things and partly to ensure not to be seen as siding with Israel in a public debate.

It has been suggested therefore, that France’s lack of cooperation at the Iran talks was a measure to try and gain favour with Israel and Saudi Arabia, particularly when they might be disappointed with their previously unwavering American ally.

It is undeniable that both the US and Iran seem willing to make more effort than either have been before. The US Secretary of State John Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif took part in at least eight hours of bilateral talks; by far the most contact between the two nations since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. More progress, even if inconclusive, has been made in the last week than in the last ten years, and with further talks arranged to begin on the 20 November there seems hope for a deal to be reached.

However, Iran and the US, are perhaps two of the most secretive, proud and self-motivated countries in the world, and there is little doubt that they will both be holding back certain bits of information along with strict agendas as to what they are willing to agree on. That alone is an incredibly daunting and insecure start to negotiations. Moreover, when it is combined with the complications of the complex power relations surrounding any international deal involving a Middle Eastern state it seems, as illustrated by the unlikely example of France in the latest talks, that there is immeasurable potential for upset and derailing.

Thea Osborne, Features Online Columnist

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Boycott Jaffa Cakes, save Gaza?

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On Saturday 17th November, protests were held by Exeter University Students in the High Street against Israeli actions with the aim of raising awareness for the protection and support of Gaza. With these students openly planning a week full of activities to show this support for Gaza, a question is raised over whether this is an acceptable and respectable support for a country in which the people are repressed by their own government or are uneducated over reactions to events in the Middle East due to their prejudiced anti-Zionist stance.

Some examples of photos posted on the Exeter University’s Friends of Palestine’s Facebook page, show how some of the sign’s branded messages such as “boycott Israel”, “stop Israeli aggression” or “boycott Israeli goods” do not show support for Gaza but instead attack Israel. This is far from what can be seen as a peaceful protest with the aim of protecting human life and promoting peace in the area. The clear stupidity of the idea that boycotting Jaffa Cakes will make life in the Middle East peaceful, just goes to show that people on such demonstrations are uneducated about the matter of the causes and reasoning behind the recent defence attacks by the Israeli armed forces.

With President Obama’s comments earlier this week as well as Israel’s actions being supported by the UN and EU, it is clear to any rationally thinking person that maybe there is more to the story that the average Brit with their minds limited to the likes of Sky News the BBC or – the best yet – The Daily Mail, would ever be able to comprehend. With a number of rockets being launched from Gaza into Israel on a daily basis, there are only so many days of the year for which the other cheek can possibly be turned before it is necessary to remove this regular threat to Israeli citizens living normal lives.

The main issue Israel faces is that their military operations merely seek to destroy the missile launchers, which the highly considerate and caring Hamas have attached to schools, hospitals or similar premises. Therefore, every time that Israel takes out one of the missile launching pads it is made out by the media that Israel has targeted a school. However, what is never mentioned is that at the time there weren’t any children in the school. It is not in the interests of the British media to actually investigate a full story as it would be neither financially nor politically beneficial to them.

No one is saying that there should not be support for Gaza, but it should not be grounds for those with a vendetta for Israel to publicly attack a nation merely trying to defend itself from constant bombardments by a terrorist organisation –Hamas- whom have been receiving a large number of weapons from the likes of Iran and Libya.

The situation needs to be assessed especially when students from a University take time out to make suggestions as ridiculous as boycotting a country’s products to solve world problems. Then again all one needs to do is look around the university to not be surprised at the level of activism on this front. After much investigation of the library it is possible to find a section about Zionism but in comparison to the vast array of books in Arabic the only books referring to Hebrew are biblical sources. Likewise for a University which boasts a great amount of Societies there is an Arabic Society, a Muslim society and a Friends of Palestine society, whereas there is just one society related to Zionism which is the Jewish society, which is not relevant for those without religious views.

As a student at a University which is pushing to be the first Conflict Free University to show its support for ongoing conflict in the Congo, it is perhaps about time that it set an example on all fronts to ensure equality for all and not follow the biased line of the British media. People cannot call for Peace in the Middle East unless they are themselves an example of that which they wish to achieve – peace can never come from prejudice.

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